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bluesmaster101
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Posted: 2005-11-01 22:53 CET | |
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So im 14 and in highschool band. i play on a 6c right now and i dont really like it all too much and was thinking about a 3c or a 5c. im not sure if my band director will get mad if i get one, so what kind of changes would happen if i got one? and should i? thanks |
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Dizzy
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Posted: 2005-11-02 01:05 CET | |
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Why don't you like the 6C? Why might your band director get mad if you do switch? If you want to switch don't automatically dismiss mouthpiece that are smaller. The 7C is great mouthpiece (it has a reputation of being a beginner mouthpiece but it really is a qualily piece) What are you hoping to achive by switching? I know i didn't really answer your questions but if you are able to answer mine (either on the forum or just think about it yourself) you may get a better idea of mouthpiece selection. |
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bluesmaster101
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Posted: 2005-11-03 00:20 CET | |
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well i want a richer sound, and i feel a little held back by a 6c. i started on a 7c but my old band director got my a 6c with my new trumpet so ive just been playing on that. my band director might get mad because it may not be the sound she wants for the band, and she may not want me to play on something larger (she plays trumpet so shell definetly be able to tell) the main reason is just to get a better sound, i know that theres tons of exersizes to do and what not but its really just a matter of getting air through my horn... whatever im not really sure what im talking about lol |
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Dizzy
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Posted: 2005-11-03 08:21 CET | |
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You know, it not really a matter of getter air through the horn. Once the air hits the lips and they are vibrating, the air has done its job and has nothing else to do. By saying that i would suggest you stick with your 6C and concentrate on practising the fundamentals of the horn, long tones, lip slurs, pedal tones and so on. Also if you want a richer sound, be very clear in your mind what that sounds like and try to imitate through your horn. Listening to trumpet recordings of people with that type of sound can really help. |
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Chryxz
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Posted: 2005-11-10 02:06 CET | |
| I agree with Dizzy. Improve your tone. Equipment changes won't fix everything. I had to switch to larger mouthpieces because my lips are so thick and I couldn't get any sound out of anything smaller than a 1C. | ||
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FunkyMiles
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Posted: 2005-11-13 03:12 CET | |
| The 6C was the mouthpiece used by the Chet Baker. If you don't know who he is, limewire that dude! He had such a good tone. Just some jazz trivia there. Anyways, make the switch. You won't be dissapointed. To make the switch less drastic, I would go to the 5C. Dizzy makes a good point though, only if you have a good foundation on tone production and breathing, should you switch. I didn't switch from my 7C until after 6 years of playing. The first initial change you would see is a decreased range. That's ok though, just work your way back up. | ||
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Dizzy
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Posted: 2005-11-14 01:48 CET | |
Freddie Hubbard used a 7C. Just a little more jazz travia. 
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Asian Man
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Posted: 2005-11-14 07:14 CET | |
| Chet Bakers tone was different, and you wouldn't want that for a orchestral or brass band setting. Sergei Nakairakov(Sp?) uses a 7C | ||
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Dizzy
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Posted: 2005-11-14 11:54 CET | |
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Sergei has an amazing sound. (as well as technique!) The 7C is actully a little bit deeper cup than the popular 3C. Taking that a step further, I think I read somewhere (meaning this could be totally wrong) that the 7C is deepest C cup that Bach makes and the 3C is actually the shallowest C cup. BTW, Bluemaster, you still out there? What did you decide to do? switch or stay with the same mouthpiece? |
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marty
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Posted: 2005-11-14 22:12 CET | |
| I think you're incorrect. My 3C is deeper then my 7C. Bach's cups get shallower and the number increases. So a 1 1/2 C is much deeper then a 10 1/2 C. | ||
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marty
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Posted: 2005-11-14 22:18 CET | |
| Ok, scratch that. Bachs cups are weird. Check out the mouthpiece comparator http://kanstul.net/mpcJN/Compare/CompareIE.HTM | ||
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SeverFire
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Posted: 2005-11-15 07:49 CET | |
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I think this page will answer some questions about Bach mouthpieces: http://www.bachbrass.com/mouthpiece/mouth1.php I think rather than cup depth, it has more to do with cup/rim shape and diameter: A 1.5C has a "medium-wide, not too sharp" rim shape with a 17mm cup diameter, whereas the 10.5C has a medium-wide shape and a 15.9mm cup diameter. Both depths are listed as "Medium" -- it's the letter than denotes the depth, A = very deep, E = very shallow. |
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SeverFire
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Posted: 2005-11-15 07:53 CET | |
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I meant to add this too: If you look at some of the "Rim Shape" discriptions on that page, you'll see that there's a lot of variations. Some are just medium-wide, some are well-rounded, others have a sharp inside wall, a flat base, etc. I suppose mouthpieces are a lot more complex than imagined. |
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