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Forum - Trumpet Talk - Saving your chops.

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thechris
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Posted: 2006-03-25 21:55 CEST
1)Anyone have suggestions on how to build great endurance?

Usually when I'm in a concert/musical at school or SCMEA, and im resting during a song,i put cold water on my lips...it helps a lot.
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Peter Bones
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Posted: 2006-03-26 00:53 CEST
I use ice on my chops. When I have ice, also, I put my mouthpiece in the ice. But when I don't have ice with me, I hold the bell of my trumpet up to my lips because it's like twenty degrees cooler than the mouthpiece. That's what I do.
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skallege graduate
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Posted: 2006-03-26 03:28 CEST
Marty has a really good endurance theory...here it is..i used it and it works. ]

6/4 time, 60 BPM.

Breathe Attack, play ff.

Whole note G (6 beats) slur to 5 beat F#. Breathe on rest.

Breathe attack F# (whole note) slur to G (5 beat). Breathe.

Whole note Ab slur to 5 beat G. Breathe on rest.

Whole note G slur to 5 beat Ab. And so on...


Go from G - C. Rest for 1 or 2 minutes. C - E. Rest 1-2 minutes. E - G rest 1-2 minutes. That's all.

Easy pattern, eh?

Make sure you're playing with your loudest CONTROLLED volume. This is the most important part. This taxes your lips, which makes them stronger WHEN YOU REST.

A variation for the middle set.

The time cycle is one bar of 6/4 then one bar of 8/4. So 6/4 | 8/4 | 6/4 | 8/4 and so on...

C# (6 beats) | Cn (6 beats, 2 beats rest) | Cn (6 beats) | C# (6 beats, 2 beats rest) Do that till you get to E - D# - E

The variation comes with dynamics. Start each note ppp and crescendo to fff just before the note change. On the second note, continue at fff but decrescendo to ppp. -Marty


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marty
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Posted: 2006-03-26 04:28 CEST
Thanks for the mention.

Don't take the horn off your face when you're doing the longtones either. Breathe through your corners.

You can change the second set like this:

1 bar of 6/4 followed by 1 bar of 8/4 repeated till the pattern is complete.

Breathe attack the C# at pp and over 6 beats get to ff. When you get to the 8/4 bar, 6 beats from ff down to pp. 2 beats rest.

|6/4 C# -------> | 8/4 Cn 1 2 3 4 5 6 rest rest |
1 2 3 4 5 6 6 5 4 3 2 1
pp p mp mf f ff ff f mf mp p pp

(line up the dynamic markings with the beat numbers.

The note pattern is the same, continue to E, rest 1 - 2 minutes, then F - G on the original pattern.
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marty
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Posted: 2006-03-26 04:28 CEST
fuck! What I was hoping for didn't come out.
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Drew the Jew
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Posted: 2006-07-26 20:14 CEST
I guess I'm not as good as I thought I was. I just tried this...and it was tough. Looks like I have some endurance building to do....and some body building.
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skabone
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Posted: 2006-07-29 23:57 CEST
would this same thing work for endurance building on trombone?


thanks
alex
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Asian Man
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Posted: 2006-08-27 05:38 CEST
ska bone, of course it would. Trumpet and Trombone are family members, if you didn't know. Not just because they're both brass instruments but because of how similarly they are built. Both are 2/3 cylindrical and 1/3 conical, while the Cornet is 2/3 conical and the Flugel or Tuba are 3/3 conical. The Trombone is just an octave lower than the Trumpet and has the slide that is related to our valves.
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