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pxRage
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Posted: 2006-06-25 01:15 CET | |
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I often wondered withone is more important? Trumpets are expected to be loud, and they should. I mean they are usually the most exciting part of the band (yeah!), and are often centered out during performances. What i'm wondering is that, comparing loudness, or another words, able to blast the crap out of people sitting beside you and infront you 's eardrums .. with richness in sound and tone, yet maintain a fair volume.. which one is more important? One of my teacher likes students that can over exaduate, meaning when you see an Forte, play Triple Forte.. etc. But another, likes students to have a rich sound, even if no dynamic is indicated. I know there're examples of players who can do both really well. But I want to work on one right now. So any opinion on which one? |
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marty
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Posted: 2006-06-25 02:40 CET | |
| Richness. It's not even up for debate. If I don't want to listen to you sound like crap, why would I want to hear you blasting shit at me? | ||
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Dizzy
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Posted: 2006-06-25 03:35 CET | |
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Like marty it's really a no brainer. Richness will win every time. The teacher who like everything loud may in fact be trying to train his students into using more air. Later on he will (or should) teach them how to control and harness that power into richness of tone that also has dynamic variation. Another point is if your playing perfectly in tune with a great sound it will carry over to the audience and project far better that blasting out of tune with a bad sound. What you hear and what the audince hears are different, depending on the room and other factors. Don't waste time practising out of tune with a bad sound. Practise everything with a great tone, that includes soft playing and loud playing. |
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SeverFire
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Posted: 2006-06-30 00:20 CET | |
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I agree, richness/tone quality is perhaps one of the most important parts of playing. Last year in Symphonic Band, there was a trumpet player way down the row who played everything (even during piano parts) blaringly loud. Everybody was always getting POed at him because it was annoying at heck, but he never stopped -- not only that, his tone was horrible and he tries to play things he can't play. Like, during scales, he'll come down an octave higher or try to play thirds, but he's completely on the wrong interval and doesn't know it, and he cannot play high either. But anyway, glad that's over. |
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Skow
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Posted: 2006-06-30 16:12 CET | |
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SevemFire, I could swear I must have been in the same band as you. The kid who sits next to me in band playes everything up an octave in warm ups and blasts like you wouldn't believe. During marching season he was hated by all because he was loud beyond a point that wasn't funny. pxRage, Do not become this trumpet player. Once you get a rich tone you will be able to project your sound which will give you the loudness you want, without sounding like a MacTruck. |
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SeverFire
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Posted: 2006-07-10 20:18 CET | |
| I guess every band out there has that one annoying player. You just escape them! lol. Yeah, and this same kid also sucks at marching -- we're supposed to be moving in a line forward, and he's like 5 steps out ahead of everybody else. | ||
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trumpetplayerofdoom
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Posted: 2006-07-13 05:59 CET | |
| my personal opinion on the blasting compared to a nice, rich sound is that the rich sound is more important. as well, like you said, the trumpet is expected to be loud, and there is a reason for that. i have never had to push very hard to be loud, and that is mainly because the trumpet was meant to project. the hard thing to do is doing the quiet stuff and supporting the air properly...... | ||
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skajunkie
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Posted: 2006-07-14 15:47 CET | |
| oh man....it is so annoying to see people who cant march....cause, seriously...havent we dont everything like....a billion times? then on the next time...someone gets it wrong. whats up with that? ...hummm, when i was first playing my teacher only wanted me to play loud...but, that was like, my first year. after that i was plenty loud and started working on tone. ...yeah | ||
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pxRage
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Posted: 2006-07-20 17:45 CET | |
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Thanks for the reply guys. It really helped a lot. It's very amusing to see so many similar experiences from so many different people. The player I'm talking about sits beside me in band. He plays 4th, and blasts every note he ever plays and most of the time it's either out of tune or really static(y). Lol. The point is, now the teachers angry at me because she say she can't hear me and think I'm slacking off. And when we do a group performance (project), I got stuck with him and he totally over run the whole group.. So lol. Good to know I'm doing the right thing 
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