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schneider
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Posted: 2006-10-03 00:02 CEST | |
| Does anyone know how to make trumpet notes sound wavy? | ||
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Reid
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Posted: 2006-10-03 07:46 CEST | |
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Vibrato. Use either throat vibrato, or hand vibrato. Both pretty self explanatory. |
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skaman31689
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Posted: 2006-10-04 03:54 CEST | |
| I've heard that hand vibrato is kind of like cheating. Throat vibrato is supposed to be the correct way of doing it. I have trouble figuring it out. Any lessons on how you would develop the throat vibrato? | ||
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Reid
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Posted: 2006-10-04 07:34 CEST | |
| I honestly don't know. I have a natural vibrato. Or rather I never learned, it was just something I developed. I don't really use hand vibrato, but I've seen loads of killer players use it. | ||
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skajunkie
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Posted: 2006-10-26 02:53 CEST | |
| i dont think hand vibrato is cheating....i use both...at different times. i use throat vibrato anytime when i can...i only use my hand when im having fun in the higher octaves (jazz and ska stuff)...i cant really tell ya how to do it with yer air...i kinda just started doing it one day....cause i like the way it sounds...but its like you change the pace of you airstream...so that there isn't a pace. it's like a stady faltering of your air. the goal is to get your pitch to rise and fall while never leaving too far from the specific note. kinda think of the soundwave diagram thing. the horizontal like being the note...and the up and down wave being the note the way you are playing it...i think | ||
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trumpetgeek69
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Posted: 2007-10-24 22:10 CEST | |
there are actually 3 ways to vibrato. You can vibrato with your hand, throat, and lips too. If u mix two of them at the same time......... You get a really nice vibrato. Just don't over do it.  :L
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TheNewFlea
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Posted: 2007-11-16 22:37 CEST | |
| This is a topic that most trumpet players will argue over and tend to differ on. If you use lip vibrato you can get so used to changing your embouchure that you start to use it when you don't want to. Most people either cut this method out entirely or have to work on it a lot so you can flick it on or off like a switch. If you can get it right, it sounds really nice. A lot of Trumpet professors and professional players completely ignore throat vibrato because it messes with your air stream and changes your tone. Still people tend to use this method due to personal preference over the other methods. Wrist vibrato it good for the simple matter that it doesn't mess with your set embouchure or your air stream, but rather with the trumpet itself. It may not sound the best and apparently some people consider it cheating (although I don't). I tend to use lip and wrist together like trumpetgeek69 mixes his. I don't like throat at all, but some people prefer certain types over others. It depends on you and your specific teacher, because they have a huge impact on what you do. But enough about it, hope it helped someone. | ||
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trumpetgeek69
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Posted: 2007-11-19 08:15 CEST | |
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thanks "TheNewFlea" ...........im with u too.......but like u said.......it all depends on the preference...... cheers -trumpetgeek69
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Savage
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Posted: 2007-11-21 04:02 CEST | |
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I'm actually really surprised that no one has mentioned diaphragm vibrato. I think this is possibly the most effective and natural ways to manipulate your playing. The best way to explain this I guess is to say, go make funof opera singers, make some noise, hit the highest note you can (singing) and pretend you're the fat opera singer from bugs bunny, or the stereotypical fat lady complete with horns. You should find that you're using vibrato, but you're not really moving your mouth. This is the natural singing style vibrato you want to use with your trumpet, or at least try it, it might take a few tries to get it with your horn, but once you do, you'll find it's very useful and easy to do. Controlling it perfectly will come in time. For those of you that are having trouble getting the vibrato while singing: try putting your hands on your stomach, try to push it in, but resist with your abs. Flex your abs to try to push your hands away (stick your gut out). You should be able to get some movement, maybe a few centimetres (an inch or so) out of it. Once you feel that you can move your hands with your stomach muscles, try singing a note and doing the same thing (the higher the note the easier it is to do this). You should notice a small waver in your sound when you push your stomach out. Try using quick thrusts (like you're stabbing your hands with your stomach, not that that's possible), and you'll really hear the difference. Keeping this new found control in mind, try the opera singer again, even keep your hands pushing against your stomach to ensure you're flexing it. You should always be blowing as if it were from your stomach, it gives you so much more air support and control than thinking about blowing from anywhere higher up, and you should always have your stomach flexed while playing an intsrument. If you don't, then try it, you'll find it will improve your dynamics, vibrato, stamina, and even your abs  .
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trumpetgeek69
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Posted: 2007-11-29 19:45 CEST | |
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I have heard of this but never really tried it...i give it a try though cheers -trumpetgeek69
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TheNewFlea
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Posted: 2007-12-02 03:43 CEST | |
| I know that diaphragm vibrato is the most common for flute and possibly some other woodwinds, although I am not sure. I didn't even think about that when I was writing about it, because every trumpet teacher and a few other brass players (and these guys are principal players in either wind symphonies or orchestras) have told me that this is a horrible method because it changes the fluidity of your air flow and you don't want to mess with that. I dunno if it would work well or not, I have never tried (and will most likely never will). But if you can sound good while doing it, do it. Oh and the blow from the stomach thing is absolutely true and excellent advice. When taking breaths, fill up your stomach first and then your chest and you will get a lot more air. That really doesn't go here, but I thought I would mention it. | ||
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Savage
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Posted: 2007-12-02 18:23 CEST | |
| Hmm, maybe it's not the best method on trumpet, see, I'm primarily a sax player, so when I picked trumpet up, I kind of just carried a lot of the techniques over, and the ones that worked, I kept. I found it worked really well with trumpet, and equally well with trombone (although hand vibrato is the easiest and most controlled on trombone). It worked so i used it, and I still prefer it to any other kind, it seems like the universal vibrato to me, but I've never had a trumpet teacher, so take it for what it's worth, just a guy and his preferences. Blowing from your stomach is a proven fact though, everyone should start doing that. | ||
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TheNewFlea
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Posted: 2007-12-03 22:06 CEST | |
| Yeah, that makes complete sense, since you play a woodwind instrument, primarily. And like I said, whatever works well for you, go for it. There is no "Correct" way. Some may be better than others, but for most techniques, there are many ways to do it. Anyway, whoever reads this, go with one of the techniques, if you sound good, no one is gonna stop you from doing something. | ||
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trumpetgeek69
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Posted: 2007-12-04 20:01 CEST | |
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that is true..........by the way ....i tried the diaphragm vibrato .....and to my opinion so far.....i like the lip vibrato better...no offense...but it takes a lot of practice for someone to get the diaphragm vibrato.....thats what i think so far..cheers -trumpetgeek69
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j0hntrumpet
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Posted: 2007-12-05 23:15 CEST | |
| sorry if this is offensive to anyone but my grandpa has parkinsons and his vibrato's flawless thats what i do i kind of shake my bottom jaw | ||
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Zuri
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Posted: 2007-12-07 05:49 CEST | |
| I know it's been said...but there isn't a best method or correct way of doing it, it all contributes to your personal style. Some thing will work for people that won't work well for other players. I do a combo of hand and throat vibrato, depending on the situation. | ||
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jolt8va
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Posted: 2008-02-24 01:02 CEST | |
| the hand variant makes for a more aggressive jazzy vibrato where as doing it with your throat or lips or whatever your into is more for classical | ||